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Edelman blasted for claims it never made

Last Sunday, a Chicago Tribune article focused on Edelman in its look at reverse mentoring, in which older executives learn about the digital space from the younger workers who grew up within it. The article notes than 95% of Edelman’s US senior executives have “rotmens” (that’s “mentor” backwards) and that the program is being rolled out worldwide.

Let the spinning begin!

Gawker headlined its view of Edelman’s program, “Huge PR Firm Has Bunch of Kids Digital PR Strategists” (the strike-through is Gawker’s, not mine). The story lead:

Here is just the latest example of how a large PR agency can be a huge, huge, huge, hustle, staffed by hustlers, who will charge you too much money to do dumb, simple things, on the internet. Edelman!

The Gawker post asserts that clients will be overcharged for work performed by 23-year-olds because the senior people don’t get it. (I left a comment more than 24 hours ago that hasn’t appeared yet. Something tells me it never will, since I asked if their claims were backed up by evidence of shoddy consulting).

Gawker’s point of view, though, is not far off from the assertions in a post by Gini Dietrich of PR agency Arment Dietrich, who repeatedly insisted that the article claimed:

  • Edelman is turning digital strategy over to its Gen-Yers
  • 95% of Edelman’s senior staff are clueless about social media

Dietrich’s provocative headline, “Edelman Admits They Don’t KNow Social Media,” introduces a post that suggests that Edelman’s senior staff has no idea what they’re doing when it comes to social media. And in response to dozens of comments, Dietrich continues to insist that Edelman came right out and admitted it:

Edelman executives told the Chicago Tribune (and Sun-Times) that 95 percent of their senior leaders, 95 percent, don???t know how to use social media. I did not make up this stat. It???s in the article.

There’s more. PRNewser wondered, “We’re honestly trying to figure out how chatting it up all day on Instant Messenger equates to advising major corporations on their digital communications strategy.” Loudmouth Design and Communication headlined its article, “Big and Dumb,” and claimed the story characterizes “top PR agency management, who are used to hawking their expertise as current and dare we say ‘cutting edge’, completely in the dark and seemingly out of touch.” Law and More says the Edelman example should lead clients to unbundle their PR needs.

The problem is, nowhere in the article does anyone—Edelman or anyone else—claim that senior management doesn’t know how to use social media, only that 95% of the members of senior management are participating in the reverse mentoring program.

As Edelman Digital President Rick Murray (who heads up a team of some of the smartest people in the business, including Phil Gomes and Steve Rubel) said in a tweet, obviously reacting to the criticism:

Rick Murray Tweet

That is, Baby Boomers can be well-schooled in social media and still glean tons of insight from those younger employees who were born into the digital era and have grown up networked 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

Also, nowhere does the article suggest that the junior staff is setting social media strategy for clients. Nowhere. Not even a hint.

I’m with BlogHer co-founder Jory Des Jardins, who commented, “I think it???s brilliant that (Edelman’s) sr people are learning the more tactical aspects of (social media) from the digital natives on staff. Even if we old folks get the promise of social media, we don???t necessarily know how to build our Tweetdecks. Kudos to Edelman.”

But more, I’m bemused that so many people drew faulty conclusions from the article (which, by the way, was pretty poorly written in its own right) and then slammed Edelman based on those inaccurate assumptions.

10/29/09 | 12 Comments | Edelman blasted for claims it never made

Comments
  • 1.Sounds like Edelman is basically using their younger staff as a focus group to gain insights into how this influential demographic is using social media - which sounds to me like a good idea.

    The younger generations still set the pace when it comes to social media adoption,and social media trends change extremely quickly, so it seems to me that Edelman would be crazy not to take advantage of this in-house resource.

    Daniel P Bingham | October 2009 | New York

  • 2.Wow Shel, you ought to work for Edelman. Your post reads so overtly defensive of the firm. I spent a number of years @ Edelman surrounded by a great deal of talent. I was stunned by the article - agree it wasn't the best writing I've seen - because I couldn't believe the experts @ Edelman would subject themselves to that. I really wonder what/if they were thinking - and I really do admire a lot of these folks and call some my friends. What you've done here, though, is what those of us who were senior counselors in Edelman's crisis & corporate reputation practice always warned against - creating the Day 2 and Day 3... story. So I think I take back the first comment that you should work for the Big E. I expect they will climb out of this mess because there are truly talented people there. Maybe next time before they talk to the Trib they should look at the strategy from all sides and use the talent within. It doesn't look like the Repuation Management folks were in on this, or at least not listened to, because I know they know better.

    Star McCaffery | October 2009 | Greater Chicago Area

  • 3.@Star, thanks for commenting. Actually, if you don't mind a hackneyed phrase, I just call 'em like I see 'em. If you look back through the blog, you'll see a few posts in which I've been critical of Edelman and others where I've had nothing but praise. I hoped my focus in this piece, though, would be on the twisting of the facts of a story by so many in the blogosphere. I probably would've written the same piece if it had been some other firm instead of Edelman.

    Shel Holtz | October 2009

  • 4.Well said, Shel. I am lucky to spend a fair amount of time with Edelman folks, and to see my Corp Comm students go to work for Edelman. I personally see nothing in APAC to support the rubbish being printed. Darn good people....of all ages.

    Michael Netzley | October 2009 | Singapore

  • 5.Note from Lionel: Below is a guest post from Neville Hobson . He and Shel Holtz continue to be a big

  • 6.I respect the calling 'em like you see 'em, Shel. Reading the Trib article was nearly surreal for me and my reaction is really from the gut on this one.

    Like I said, lots of talent there and they will recover. Of course it's the writer's words and we don't know what was or wasn't said in the interviews, but seems the messaging was off somewhat to result in this. Does one have to personally tweet to understand Twitter's impact and include it in the strategy? I think not.

    The strategists have decades of experience and ARE great counselors. ROTNEM is cute but the cute has overshadowed the message. Too bad. I suppose better to make a mistake like this on yourself than on a client - and we're all human and make mistakes.

    Finally, I've turned off the auto-fix on my browser so my name will be spelled correctly this time - a mistake I hope to never make when putting a client in the news!

    Starr McCaffery | October 2009 | Greater Chicago Area

  • 7.Kudos to Edelman for taking a stand and refuting the claims made in the Trib article. There is a lot that the Jr. and Sr. Execs can learn from each other, including social media. Rick Murray hit the nail on the head when he said that anyone under 30 who thinks they can't learn from their over 30 counterparts is surely headed toward obsolescence. The information gleaned from those young execs must be helping since he made the statement via Twitter.

    Tessa Carroll | October 2009

  • 8.Hey Shel --

    Thx for taking the time to weigh in on this. Sadly, the fact that this is all about cross-generational learning was lost on so many. Appreciate you sharing your perspective.

    Cheers,

    Rick

    Rick Murray | October 2009 | Chicago

  • 9.Nice article, Shel. My take (http://www.holmesreport.com/blog/index.cfm/2009/10/30/Reverse-Mentoring-Under-Fire) is pretty similar to yours. You could make the case that Edelman was naive, but every decent mainstream agency has some sort of reverse mentoring program, and i'd be much more worried about the 5 percent not participating than the 95 percent who are.

    Paul Holmes | October 2009

  • 10.Shel, you brought to light on my blog that you didn't read the 95% statistic the same way I did. I'm willing to admit there is another way to look at it. But I'm still struggling with how 95% of the senior leadership can be using this reverse mentoring program and not have it be perceived that the younger employees (who don't yet have business experience) are setting social media strategy.

    I agree with Gawker - I read it as the Edelman senior leadership doesn't understand social media, which I translate as not knowing how to set the strategy. Social media is different. You can't understand it in theory and set strategy without practicing it.

    I LOVE that their leadership is willing to admit they have a lot to learn. And I LOVE that they're willing to learn it from their younger employees. What I don't like is that this makes them look like they are charging their clients a lot of money to do something no one there really understands. Now, I know that's not entirely true because the five percent of their leadership who are not using the reverse mentoring program are people like Steve Rubel, are completely on top of their game. But, just like the big firms get blasted for letting interns pitch the media, this makes it look like Edelman is letting people without business experience drive social media strategy. And that hurts our entire industry.

    Gini Dietrich | October 2009 | Chicago, IL

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